Thursday, October 3, 2019

1/72 Hessians Granadier Regiment


Hello again¡ 


For my next hessian unit I have chosen the grenadier regiment Von Rall. I wanted to make a grenadier Regiment; with their golden hats they would give a colorful touch to the English side.

And why this one? This was the only grenadier regiment not formed by joining the grenadier companies of other units, but a specific grenadier battalion. Because of this it was the only carrying flags, and this is the main reason for choosing it; a unit without flags is not the same…


Other particularities of the Regiment was that their coats hadn´t got lapels. As you can see in the illustration they wore bue coat with red lining, their small clothes in buff. As in the illustration, sometimes the breeches are made out of mattrres ticking; I think is very difficult to paint this small color lines in the breeches, so I have paint then in buff, perhaps I will try next time…
(I have used a image form the book “An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Uniforms from 1775-83-The American revolution war” from Lorenz books; www.lorenzbooks.com


During the campaign this unit , as other Hessians units, was not accustomed to this new conflict and tried to use the rigid formations used in Europe. In Trenton the ysurrended practically without fighting (it´s said that their musket couldn´t fire because the low temperatures,- but I think in Germany the weather is sometimes the same¡-; but the main reason seems to be that they don´t use the possibilities of the defense in a city, using rigid formation in an open space and not using small groups covered inside the buildings


Hola otra vez¡

Para mi próxima unidad de “Hessianas” he escogido el Regimiento “Von Rall”. Quería hacer un Regimiento de granaderos; con sus sombreros dorados darían un toque de color al lado inglés.

Y por qué este? Este fue el único Regimiento de Granaderos no formado por la unión de compañías de granaderos de otras , snio que eran un regimiento de granaderos específico. Por esto era el único Regimiento que tenía banderas, y esta es la razón principal para escogerle, una unidad sin banderas no es lo mismo…

Otra particularidades del regimiento era que sus abrigos n tenían solapas, como podéis ver en la ilustración vestían u abrigo azul con ribetes en rojo, su resto de ropas eran en color beige. Como viene en la ilustración, a veces los granaderos tenían pantalones a rayas de color, pero creo que no soy capaz de pintarlos así, así que los he dejado en beige. Quizás la próxima vez

Durante la campaña esta unidad, como otras de “hessians”, no estaba acostumbradas al nuevo conflicto y trataron de usar las mismas rígidas formaciones usadas en Europa. En Trenton se rindieron prácticamente sin luchar ( se ha dicho que sus mosquetes no podían disparar debido a las bajas temperaturas, pero en Alemania debieron tener el mismo problema¡ parece que la principal razón fue que no usaron las posibilidades de defensa en una ciudad, usando formaciones rígidas en un espacio abierto y no dividiéndose en pequeños grupos a cubierto en los edificios.

How can we do them?


Hat?
Some time ago I though how to do Hessians Granadiers in this 1/72 scale.

One option it´s to use the Hat Seven Years War Range, but as I explained in other post, apart from the differences in the uniforms used, for me the height and the anatomy are incompatible with the British Accurate-Revell-Imex figures.


Como los podemos hacer ?
Hat? Hace tiempo pensé en cómo hacer los granaderos. Una opción es usar la serie de figures de Hat de la Guerra de los siete años, pero aparte de las diferencias en el uniforme, la anatomía las hace incompatibles con los ingleses de Accurate-Revell-Imex.



Italeri?
…And it´s possible to use the Italery Russian Granadiers from the Napoleonic period?

Their head with are very well sculpted, with lovely moustaches, and the same for the hats, compatible with the hat used by the Hessians…but is it possible to use their bodies too?








 I saw many differences in uniform… but their poses are very good and I began to stay a little bored using only the Accurate-Revell-Imex ones…

The coats are fasten in their upper front; but really their arms hide this part in almost every pose. Painting this side as if they were a little open can conceal it.




The coat are very sort, For solving this I have used the lower part of the minis from the Accurate-Revell-Imex minis; in this way I solve the problems with the boots too. (in some minis for keeping their original poses I have added only the tail of the coats, or, as with the flag bearers I had modeled that part.






y…es posible usar los Granaderos Rusos de Italeri del periodo Napoleónico? Sus cabezas están muy bien esculpidas, con sus bigotes….pero es posible utilizar también sus cuerpos?

Veo diferencias en los uniformes, pero sus poses son muy buenas y yo comienzo a estar un poco aburrido de usar solo los Accurate-Revell-Imex…






 Other problem it´s the equipment; 


when I have change the lower part I have recuperated the swords that the British don’t have and the hessians had.

But one unsolved problems are the haversacks; In all the illustrations, and minis I have seen all of them have haversacks, and the Russians Napoleonic Granadiers have back packs; It´s true that the rest of British troops used them in the AWI, perhaps the hessians too? And the model of backpacks used in the AWI is different…But I realized that to remove the backpacks and restore their backs was impossible for my capacities¡…so they keep them¡

I don´t konw if they really seem to be AWI hessians and transmit his spirit…

Los capotes están abrochados en la parte superior del frente, pero realmente sus brazos tapan esta parte en casi todas las poses. Pintando este lado como si estuvieran un poco abiertos puede camuflarlo.

Los capotes son muy cortos, para resolver esto he usado la parte inferior de las minis de Accurate-Revell-Imex. De esta manera soluciono el problema de las botas también.( en algunas minis para mantener la pose original yo sólo he añadido la cola de los capotes o la he modelado)

Otro problema es el equipamiento;

Cuando he cambiado la parte inferior, he recuperado las espadas que los británicos no tenían pero los hessiáns si.

Pero un problema sin resolver son las bolsas. En todas las ilustarciones y minis todos llevan bolsas en los lados, pero los granaderos napoleónicos rusos llevan mochilas; las tropas británicas en la AWI las llevaban…quizás los hessians también? Nosé, pero quitaralas y restaurar su espalda es imposible, …así que las mantienen.

No sé si ellos tarnsmiten el espíritu de los Hessians en la AWI…

Que pensáis?Otras posibilidades de conversión?
Muchas graciaspor vuestra atención¡








What do you think? Other possibilities for conversions to granadiers?

Thank you very much for watching¡

4 comments:

  1. Really nice work, Antonio. I love it when a modeller isn't restricted to what the original figures offer. And I can see why you wanted those flags!

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  2. Thank you Bill! Conversion it's a very creative phase, and you have the motivation of doing something original... I'm trying with another Italeri set...

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  3. Hi,
    been doing AWI myself for a long time. I also faced the problem of not many sets :-(.
    So,I also started to convert. Great to see your ideas! New inspiration for me with new ideas.
    Some ideas from my viewpoint for conversions :

    Take some thin (and harder) wire and heat it with a candle. Then scratch down the outsides of the standing collars of the NAPI figures... et voilá: 18th century collars ;-).

    Soldering iron and excess plastic from the sprues can be used to create haversacks.

    The thinner sprues can also be used as US waterbottles. Cut the round sprue into thin slides and there they are.
    In this method you can reshape even the old Airfix into usable figures with haversacks and cartridge box (same molten plastic method than the haversacks).


    I'd send you pictures if I knew how to post them here.

    Yours, Timo

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    1. Hello Timo¡
      Very glad to meet you, and to share our experiences¡
      I´ll use your tips; I have just bough and American Airfix reference in Amazon¡
      I have never had it (I think in was not commercialized in Spain).
      I think it´s not possible to post photos in the commentaries, I´m sorry; If you want to send me photos via email (Antonio_lobo_4@hotmail.com), and if you want them to be publish in the blog (with your tips, I´ll be very pleased¡) .
      Antonio.

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